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— Yes agreed we now have tons of grunt-... modules all over npm which just barely wrap the pre existing stuff which is usable in cli anyways

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— It is a mess and pushed me to just use make and good old shell commands

— I mean I still use it but man, it all sucks so bad

— Like a php dev hah

— The thing with php is: at least there's alternatives

— Js is the most written language so therefore it is also the most abused imo

— And can be abused on virtually any platform

— I don't think it's possible to use javascript without it being abuse

— Or if, I have not found it

— Please tell me if you find it

— In what way do you think it's abused?